How Leaders Build Teams People Don’t Want to Leave
In this episode of MHEDA Talks, host Katie Richards sits down with Joe Mull, author, founder of Boss Hero School, and speaker at the 2026 MHEDA Convention, to explore what it truly takes to build a workplace where employees want to stay.
Joe shares insights from his research and experience in leadership development, challenging common assumptions about retention and engagement. He discusses why the idea that “no one wants to work anymore” misses the mark and reframes the conversation around quality of life, trust, and the overall employee experience. Joe also offers practical strategies leaders can use to strengthen commitment, improve retention, and create a more people-centered workplace.
Key Topics Discussed
- Employee commitment vs. transactional thinking
- The role of quality of life in retention
- Why “No one wants to work anymore” is a myth
- Stay interviews vs. exit interviews
- Practical leadership habits that improve retention
About Joe Mull
Joe Mull is an award-winning author, Hall of Fame speaker, and the founder of Boss Hero School. With a background in leadership development across higher education and healthcare, Joe helps organizations improve employee commitment, reduce turnover, and build more human-centered workplace cultures. He is known for translating research and psychology into practical strategies that leaders can apply to attract, engage, and retain top talent.


